Creatively I've had both. For example I did the Olympics Album in ’96, the Atlanta Olympics, and it was a huge album. And it was disappointing. I only sold, like, 300 thousand units in the U.S. But if I listen to that album today I still think the album is a masterpiece. So to me that’s a success and I've said that before. Even though the amount of money that we spend marketing didn’t justify, you know, because of what we ended up selling, but it's a great album. Whoever listens to that album five years from now or ten - it's still a great album.

But for the most part going to our - how we started out this interview thing is success is - professional speaking is gauged very simply - shareholder return, that’s it. And anything other than that, you're naïve and the system will spit you out.

Shareholders are looking to make money. They're not - if they want a Picasso they go buy a Picasso, you know what I'm saying? And they have every right to expect their investments to pay off and that’s our responsibility. That’s what we do day-to-day. So success the way we quantify success in what we do here every day is at the end of the day is how do we close the month, how do we close the quarter, and how do we close the year. That’s it. and that’s what determines whether I'm going to be here next year or not. They're not going to say, “Jose just did such a great job with that album cover or with that record. What a beautiful record. Guy lost 10 million for us last year, but he makes some beautiful records.” It used to work like that and a lot of people had brilliant careers not making a lot of money for the companies they worked for. But again, that is non-existent today.

So I think that’s how you measure success. But you're asking me professionally and not personally. Right, professionally that’s how you measure success. Success is to have my health and my children to be healthy and for my daughter to get accepted to a university of her choice. To me that’s success. And for my children to turn out to be good people, that’s nothing to do with this. You know what I'm saying?

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